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Beth Cyra
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(08-05-2012, 08:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by chertipros

I wouldn't say it's a ripoff, but it definitely was inspired heavily by super smash brothers. And there is no denying that. And just to play devils advocate, viewtiful joe red hot rumble was a "super smash bros ripoff" too. Was he involved in that?

I'm guessing Kamiya wasn't happy about this either.
digita1alchemy
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(08-05-2012, 08:37 PM)
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REAL TALK.
Nibel
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(08-05-2012, 08:38 PM)
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Absolutely spot on.

What the hell you want to argue about?
NoirVisage
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(08-05-2012, 08:38 PM)
i'm not following the train of thought in those tweets, especially the 2nd and the last.
Duffyside
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(08-05-2012, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by DMPrince

when his game can sell we will talk.

What will we talk about? How dumb it is to apply this logic to anything?

I only want to know what Britney Spears and Justin Bieber think about music, because they sell the most, duh.
Varjet
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(08-05-2012, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by chertipros

And there is no denying that. And just to play devils advocate, viewtiful joe red hot rumble was a "super smash bros ripoff" too. Was he involved in that?

Nope
Forever
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(08-05-2012, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil

Wait, are you saying Kamiya is unoriginal?
Desmond
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(08-05-2012, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by DMPrince

he should rip off on making a profit.

Damn lol
jett
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(08-05-2012, 08:39 PM)
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Kamiya trying to secure dat Nintendo relationship.
DeaconKnowledge
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(08-05-2012, 08:39 PM)
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Sony has never ripped off Nintendo.
ShockingAlberto
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(08-05-2012, 08:39 PM)
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ITT people will turn on or support someone because of corporate loyalties.
Beth Cyra
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(08-05-2012, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by DMPrince

he should rip off on making a profit.

He was the director of one of Capcom's best selling games of all time and created a multimillion selling franchise for them as well. Not to mention Bayo did over a million so this comment is pointless as his games do sell.
Risette
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(08-05-2012, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Desmond

Bayonetta, Vanquish, plus a plethora of Shooters and Fighters are also conceptual rip offs.

Bayonetta is a conceptual ripoff of what? The subgenre that Kamiya practically started?
ScraftyDevil
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(08-05-2012, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Forever

Wait, are you saying Kamiya is unoriginal?

Hey, I love Viewtiful Joe, Bayonetta, Vanquish and such more than most, but even I have to admit that most of his ideas are at least conceptual ripoffs.
Boss Doggie
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(08-05-2012, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by The_Hitcher89

At the end of the day for me, its a conceptual rip-off of a game that is one-of-a-kind, and doesn't have many willing competitors with a rostor to make it worth copying. But they seem to have done more than just copy it. They've taken the simple framework and put their own spin on it from the first floor up judging from the changes and impressions, and its basically ignorance to not even give it a chance because it has the audacity to be a 4-player mascot brawler.

It's not really unique if you think much about it - there're a bunch of them in Japan. Smash isn't the first time Snake had to fight non-MGS people.
Loudninja
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Food for thought.
(08-05-2012, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Duffyside

I think it's totally unreasonable to say people have to play games to decide they're not interested, or that they are. Yes, he might think differently once he played it, but that doesn't mean he can't have an opinion now, nor that it might not be true in the end.

And I'm really looking forward to PSBR; but I get the harsh criticisms.

No I completely disagree with that.
Dead Prince
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Originally Posted by Duffyside

What will we talk about? How dumb it is to apply this logic to anything?

I only want to know what Britney Spears and Justin Bieber think about music, because they sell the most, duh.

Justin bieber doesn't like to be compared to timberlake.
ZoddGutts
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Originally Posted by DMPrince

he should rip off on making a profit.

He already did that with Bayonetta but that's okay since he made DMC.
Anteater
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(08-05-2012, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil

Hey, I love Viewtiful Joe, Bayonetta, Vanquish and such more than most, but even I have to admit that most of his ideas are at least conceptual ripoffs.

He didn't make Vanquish
Delusibeta
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(08-05-2012, 08:40 PM)
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Well, at least it's a Ronseal point of view. It's exactly what it says on the tin.
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Wario64
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(08-05-2012, 08:40 PM)
TheOddOne
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Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto

ITT people will turn on or support someone because of corporate loyalties.

In a nutshell. See this becoming something that follows him forever, even "journalists" will try to find him to "clarify" his opinion.
Desmond
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(08-05-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by pizzaroll

Bayonetta is a conceptual ripoff of what? The subgenre that Kamiya practically started?

Golden Axe.
keit4
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(08-05-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by toadster101

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/w0eWm.png[IMG]

/thread

Sorry Sony fans.
The_Hitcher89
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(08-05-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ookami-kun

It's not really unique if you think much about it - there're a bunch of them in Japan. Smash isn't the first time Snake had to fight non-MGS people.

I don't know about the Japanese games industry :(
TheBioLover
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(08-05-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by jett

Kamiya trying to secure dat Nintendo relationship.

Maybe Nintendo payed him off to smear PSASBR!

I'm joking, Nintendo fanboys
OldJadedGamer
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(08-05-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by corporate cheerleader

It's okay, let the Xbox fanboys have some fun.

Someone says a Sony game is a ripoff of a Nintendo game and the Xbox fanboys are having fun?
Data West
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(08-05-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zefah

I'll never understand comments like this.

Have you ever had a job?

Ill never understand replies like this. why do kamiya swery and kojima flood my feed daily but Ken Levine posts like once a week? But keep making assumptions
Beth Cyra
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(08-05-2012, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil

Hey, I love Viewtiful Joe, Bayonetta, Vanquish and such more than most, but even I have to admit that most of his ideas are at least conceptual ripoffs.

Well at least learn what games he freaking created.

Vanquish was Mikami not Kamiya.

Baoynetta was a rip off, but of his own creation and something he took to the next level.

VJ? If you really want to boil it down then maybe, otherwise no.
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Originally Posted by ScraftyDevil

Hey, I love Viewtiful Joe, Bayonetta, Vanquish and such more than most, but even I have to admit that most of his ideas are at least conceptual ripoffs.

Vanquish was Mikami and a fairly separate team that left the studio after its completion to form Tango.
KillerTravis
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(08-05-2012, 08:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Wario64

Lol.
Kusagari
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(08-05-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by toadster101

http://i.imgur.com/w0eWm.png[/IMG]

/thread.

Or are Sony fans going to disagree with the company itself?
Risette
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(08-05-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wario64

lol

Originally Posted by Desmond

Golden Axe.

The hell?
Duffyside
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(08-05-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loudninja

No I completely disagree with that.

So you admit that you being excited for PSBR before ever playing it was totally unreasonable?
Desmond
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(08-05-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by keit4

/thread

Sorry Sony fans.

I think people are miffed that he says stuff without touching the game.
Unspeakable Evil
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(08-05-2012, 08:42 PM)
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OP I knew you would make this thead :)
Loudninja
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kusagari

/thread.

Or are Sony fans going to disagree with the company itself?

Oh man a tag on a youtube video?!?!?

Well I am done.
GuardianE
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wario64


lmao. Perfect.
Holy Order Sol
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)

Originally Posted by GSR

Hideki Kamiya annoyed on Twitter, tells Sony to use its own brain

XD
Nirolak
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Desmond

I think people are miffed that he says stuff without touching the game.

That seems kind of silly to me though given that as far as I can tell he doesn't play any modern games.

This is a pretty fair shake relative to what he's going to give any other game.
JABEE
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)
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I see these character brawlers a sub-genre Of fighting games. Just like every other genre, they follow a certain template, but differentiate themselves from the competition through different systems, different fighting mechanics. I don't understand how it is a rip-off. Every FPS game with a Single Player Campaign, TDM, and CTF would be considered a rip-off If held to the same standards.
Kusagari
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loudninja

Oh man a tag on a youtube video?!?!?

Does Sony tag Killzone videos with Halo?
gabbre
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)
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He's right but I don't see anything wrong in ripoffs if they're good
Zefah
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Dragonzord

Ill never understand replies like this. why do kamiya swery and kojima flood my feed daily but Ken Levine posts like once a week? But keep making assumptions

Why are you comparing Kojima, Kamiya, and Levine? Do you think that Ken Levine is working harder and longer hours because he doesn't post on Twitter as much? Talk about making assumptions...
Desmond
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(08-05-2012, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by pizzaroll

lol


The hell?

joking...
Dunk#7
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Why does SSB get a pass to be the only game in the genre?

If this were the way the industry worked we would only have about 10 different game series that were on their 20th iteration.

How dare Crash Team Racing and Diddy Kong Racing copy off of Mario Kart!!!

The logic for being against PSABR is ridiculous
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(08-05-2012, 08:44 PM)
7threst
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Originally Posted by DMPrince

he should rip off on making a profit.

Goddamn this gave me a laugh haha! :)
snowdog1971
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(08-05-2012, 08:45 PM)

Originally Posted by keit4

He is right.

This ^^

Not that I mind tbh, it's a great idea.

I'm still waiting for Capcom to announce Nintendo Vs Capcom, will be a nice filler for fighting game fans until the next Super Smash Bros. game is released and will be a licence to print money for both Capcom and Nintendo, particularly for Nintendo because it will be a ridiculously successful system seller.

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