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-   -   Hideki Kamiya on PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale: "It's just a ripoff." (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485438)

JStein0222 08-05-2012 07:52 PM

I think it's just extremely narrow minded for him to think that way, especially as a developer.

ShockingAlberto 08-05-2012 07:52 PM

The part I enjoy is that if this were a separate game with original characters and not first party, absolutely no one would be up in arms about this comment.

GDGF 08-05-2012 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=chertipros;40650813]like this [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDe00vAi3hY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDe00vAi3hY[/URL][/QUOTE]

Holy shit I've never seen that before. Gave me hard core nostalgia chills.


Why the hell did I sell my SMS :(

Pranay_ 08-05-2012 07:53 PM

this thread is going to get really ugly.

The game i would rather say is inspired rather then being a rip off.

when everyone plays the beta, i guess they will get it.

54-46! 08-05-2012 07:53 PM

Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..

JABEE 08-05-2012 07:53 PM

Saying Battle Royale is a rip-off would be as intellectually honest as looking at P-100 For 10 seconds and saying it was a Pikmin ripoff without looking at the mechanics of the game an how it works.

Endo Punk 08-05-2012 07:53 PM

Well I did like the game before I realized it's just a soulless product placement title to appease 3rd party developers like Capcom.

Superbot can fuck right off I completely agree with Kamiya. Shit awful rip off that doesn't understand the meaning of celebrating PlayStation's history. Hopefully next gen the idiots will get it right

Anonymous Tipster 08-05-2012 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

I love that these keep coming.

pants 08-05-2012 07:53 PM

Eh, Kamiya may just talk himself out of future contracts if he goes on this way.

Holy Order Sol 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

Use your brain.

Kandrick 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=SniperHunter;40650662]pretty much....he is on nintendo's payroll and I don't expect him to say anything good about any Sony game.

[B]But yea that Sony all star game is a total ripoff...same goes for that little big planet cart racer.[/B][/QUOTE]

I was watching the giantbomb quicklook, and it has a "blue missile" that target the player in first place. Unless i am mistaken.

I mean, really ?

Forever 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

Are these people being ironic, or what?

Nibel 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

Holy crap, read the thread man :lol
Or his Wikipedia

chertipros 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=darkside31337;40650856]I had no idea you were privy to PSN sales data.

I can tell you Anarchy Reigns bombed hard and its basically dead on arrival when/if it ever actually makes it to the states.[/QUOTE]

So you are saying that he is wrong just because his games don't sell very good?

Zekes! 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

I knew this would be its own thread loool

Zefah 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=Desmond;40650544]I think people are miffed that he says stuff without touching the game.[/QUOTE]

He didn't call it a bad game, though. It can be a rip-off while being a ton of fun at the same time. Kamiya simply isn't interested in the game because it's a rip-off, though.

[QUOTE=Loudninja;40650794]Its me what?

Oh a tag on a YouTube video is consider damning now?[/QUOTE]

When it's put there by the publisher of the game? Absolutely, yes.

Diablos54 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]Did you bother to read the thread before you posted this? Cause it looks like you didn't.

Anteater 08-05-2012 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

I know.

It even has the same one liners too! and the same Enzo guy

The_Hitcher89 08-05-2012 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=Pranay_;40650907]this thread is going to get really ugly.

The game i would rather say is inspired rather then being a rip off.

when everyone plays the beta, i guess they will get it.[/QUOTE]

You think half the people in this thread will give it a fair shake?

JABEE 08-05-2012 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]
Didn't he work on DMC?

Boss Doggie 08-05-2012 07:55 PM

[quote=Kusagari;40650859]This is true, but honestly that has just made me think they made an even worse version of Smash Bros. I hate the system conceptually, but maybe it works better in practice.[/quote]

Same, honestly I thought the game would have been really better if it was an actual rip-off.

[quote=Anonymous Tipster;40650925]I love that these keep coming.[/quote]

Maybe they're being sarcastic.

Exterminieren 08-05-2012 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]
These posts are amazing.

giancarlo123x 08-05-2012 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

lmao!

toadster101 08-05-2012 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=Kandrick;40650951]I was watching the giantbomb quicklook, and it has a "blue missile" that target the player in first place. Unless i am mistaken.

I mean, really ?[/QUOTE]

Don't forget the green and red missiles!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMSR1qWbV8[/url]

Desmond 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=Zefah;40650987]He didn't call it a bad game, though. It can be a rip-off while being a ton of fun at the same time. Kamiya simply isn't interested in the game because it's a rip-off, though.[/QUOTE]
It feels nothing like smash below the surface. Thats like calling GoW a DmC ripoff.

RukusProvider 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=KillGore;40650619]I guess I expected more out of GAF but I guess fanboys will be everywhere. Play the game first, then judge it. The point here is that he hasn't even played the game and is already speaking this way. I don't think there are a lot of original ideas anymore so this doesn't bother me.[/QUOTE]

The concept of play first is silly. By that account, no should comment on an entertainment medium without first stepping through it.

There is enough information on the made for someone to form an opinion. If was talking something detailed like controls without playing it, you have a better point.

Seems pretty clear to me he's speaking conceptually. On that, there is plenty of opinion for one to form an opinion.

ShockingAlberto 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=pants;40650929]Eh, Kamiya may just talk himself out of future contracts if he goes on this way.[/QUOTE]

Does Sony care that [strike]PSASB[/strike] [strike]PSARB[/strike] Sony Smash is similar to Smash Bros.?

It seems like they are inviting the comparison rather than shying away from it.

KillerTravis 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=JStein0222;40650892]I think it's just extremely narrow minded for him to think that way, especially as a developer.[/QUOTE]

No, I think his focus on creative work makes him more open minded than most developers.

Kusagari 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

hahahahahahaha

You're not being serious, right?

Shion 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]
wow

we.are.the.armada 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

If you can't beat em, join em. If you can't join em, become them.

corporate cheerleader 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=ShockingAlberto;40651052]Does Sony care that [strike]PSASB[/strike] [strike]PSARB[/strike] Sony Smash is similar to Smash Bros.?

It seems like they are inviting the comparison rather than shying away from it.[/QUOTE]

Have you played the game?

Kandrick 08-05-2012 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

I think you are forgetting something.

Diablos54 08-05-2012 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=Ookami-kun;40651012]Same, honestly I thought the game would have been really better if it was an actual rip-off.[/QUOTE]
As weird as this sounds, I kinda agree. I hate the Super to KO mechanic.

MoogleWizard 08-05-2012 07:57 PM

I see nothing wrong with this. He just says it as it is. I doesn't say anything about the quality of the game, it can still be good.

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

So he ripped off his own game. Lol.

timetokill 08-05-2012 07:57 PM

Gotta love Kamiya. And he's 100% right on this one.

and the "buh-buh-Bayonetta is a ripoff of DMC" comments in this thread are [I]so delicious[/I]

MuddyDonut 08-05-2012 07:57 PM

I see

PhoReal 08-05-2012 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=54-46!;40650908]Coming from a guy who ripped off Devil May Cry with Bayonetta..[/QUOTE]

Oh shit. This is great.

illmatic22 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=MCD;40650815]No wonder all his recent games bombed.[/QUOTE]

He's Gotta excel at something.

ShockingAlberto 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=corporate cheerleader;40651088]Have you played the game?[/QUOTE]

Does this have something to do with my post or...

SniperHunter 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

the entire gaming industry is built on ripping off ideas...look at first person shooters, they "borrow" so much from one and other. Same goes for the GTA clones, the Uncharted and Gears of War clones...not a big deal at all.

Mr. Fix 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=corporate cheerleader;40651088]Have you played the game?[/QUOTE]

He's not insulting the game. No need to get defensive. What he said is correct, no? They are open about them being inspired by it.

DeaconKnowledge 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

Are there people in here seriously arguing that it's not a ripoff, even in concept? Seriously?

[QUOTE=pants;40650929]Eh, Kamiya may just talk himself out of future contracts if he goes on this way.[/QUOTE]

lol

Zia 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=pants;40650929]Eh, Kamiya may just talk himself out of future contracts if he goes on this way.[/QUOTE]

He apparently knows little of honor.

Can't say I disagree. Which would be fine if the entire affair weren't so slapdash. It's an aesthetic mess, and even the move sets often have little to do with the history of the characters. It all feels extremely lazy to me, and I cannot understand the excitement people have for it in that beta thread.

54-46! 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

I thought it was obvious, way too easy GAF.. way too easy.

pants 08-05-2012 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=ShockingAlberto;40651052]Does Sony care that [strike]PSASB[/strike] [strike]PSARB[/strike] Sony Smash is similar to Smash Bros.?

It seems like they are inviting the comparison rather than shying away from it.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure they do not, but the word rip-off has a lot of negative baggage attached to it and I can't imagine sony would be pleased.

RedSwirl 08-05-2012 07:59 PM

[I]Power Stone[/I]?

Majukun 08-05-2012 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=Red Sutter;40650658]Devil May Cry with a woman=totally original[/QUOTE]

how someone can rip-off himself?

plus calling bayonetta a "dmc with a woman" is really,really wrong

Hot Coldman 08-05-2012 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=pants;40650929]Eh, Kamiya may just talk himself out of future contracts if he goes on this way.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Kamiya got this far because of his corporate relations skills :lol

D_prOdigy 08-05-2012 07:59 PM

I know.


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