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-   -   Hideki Kamiya on PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale: "It's just a ripoff." (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485438)

Kandrick 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

Kamiya is awesome.

KillGore 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

I guess I expected more out of GAF but I guess fanboys will be everywhere. Play the game first, then judge it. The point here is that he hasn't even played the game and is already speaking this way. I don't think there are a lot of original ideas anymore so this doesn't bother me.

demidar 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

It's a rip-off alright, but that's not necessarily bad, although rip-off does have negative connotations. I don't really know what to make PSASBR other than the roster being eh to me.

Duffyside 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=Loudninja;40650552]Oh man a tag on a youtube video?!?!?

Well I am done.[/QUOTE]

Wow. I never noticed the tags before (I never look at those). I thought the reason for the image was the likes/dislikes.

Yeah, you are totally done.

Ragingnight 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

People who played the beta said it doesn't play anything close to brawl or melee. I mean its a mascot fighter. Yes nintendo started the first successful one (I don't know who actually started it), but thats like saying if capcom made the first fighting game that all 2d fighters are a ripoff of Street Fighter.

remist 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

I don't understand why people are so upset that PSABR is conceptually similar to smash. Wouldn't you want more games in a genre you like? Did people get this upset over stuff like Torchlight?

BeautifulMemory 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=Wario64;40650598][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ei3bZ.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Winner

JABEE 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=TheOddOne;40650482]In a nutshell. See this becoming something that follows him forever, even "journalists" will try to find him to "clarify" his opinion.[/QUOTE]
"On twitter you said you hate Sony. How much hate do you feel for Sony?"

RoboPlato 08-05-2012 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=Dragonzord;40650506]Ill never understand replies like this. why do kamiya swery and kojima flood my feed daily but Ken Levine posts like once a week? But keep making assumptions[/QUOTE]
Kamiya and Kojima only tweet for a couple blocks of time a day but they do a lot in that time.

Mr. Fix 08-05-2012 07:46 PM

I thought the folks at SuperBot admitted that they were inspired by smash? He's right, but I don't understand the hate.

Zefah 08-05-2012 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=Loudninja;40650552]Oh man a tag on a youtube video?!?!?

Well I am done.[/QUOTE]

You don't see that as damning at all?

Red Sutter 08-05-2012 07:46 PM

Edit: to hell with it

SniperHunter 08-05-2012 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=jett;40650408]Kamiya trying to secure dat Nintendo relationship.[/QUOTE]

pretty much....he is on nintendo's payroll and I don't expect him to say anything good about any Sony game.

But yea that Sony all star game is a total ripoff...same goes for that little big planet cart racer.

GiantEnemyGoomba 08-05-2012 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=darkside31337;40650259]They aren't going to put in characters into the game that nobody has ever heard of.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IFge8.jpg[/IMG]

Dead Prince 08-05-2012 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=Zefah;40650654]You don't see that as damning at all?[/QUOTE]

It's LoudNinja.

Hot Coldman 08-05-2012 07:47 PM

Well, he's right! Difference is, I just don't care. I don't really have too much of an issue with them just lifting that formula.

I do agree that them making a 3D game would have been more fitting, but eh. That'd require effort.

watershed 08-05-2012 07:47 PM

Lol at the youtube video tags. He's definitely right but idfthe game is good that's all that matters. Its nice that he believes in creative integrity as a developer, but as a consumer I'm not bothered.

Desmond 08-05-2012 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=GiantEnemyGoomba;40650670][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IFge8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Didnt FP sell really well on PSN?

Boss Doggie 08-05-2012 07:47 PM

...and I'm still wondering how Kamiya would do a Star Fox game.

GCX 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

The concept is a direct ripoff of SSB but that doesn't mean the end product would be. I haven't been paying too much attention to Sony's Battle Royale so i don't know how similar they are though.

corporate cheerleader 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Green Scar;40650699]Well, he's right! Difference is, I just don't care. I don't really have too much of an issue with them just lifting that formula.

I do agree that them making a 3D game would have been more fitting, but eh. That'd require effort.[/QUOTE]

Then Capcom Defense Force would whine that it's a Power Stone rip-off.

ShockingAlberto 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=SniperHunter;40650662]pretty much....he is on nintendo's payroll[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]A payroll is the sum of all financial records of salaries for an employee, wages, bonuses and deductions.[/QUOTE]

Does this apply to an outside studio being contracted for development? I guess since Nintendo is publishing it, maybe, but I am not sure they have any partial or complete ownership.

KillerTravis 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Red Sutter;40650658]Devil May Cry with a woman=totally original[/QUOTE]

Use your brain.

7threst 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=toadster101;40650469][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/w0eWm.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Omg, that is hilarious... :)

Sadist 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=toadster101;40650469][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/w0eWm.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Oh haha, [I]wow[/I]

Not linking to your own franchises...

JABEE 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Fix;40650647]I thought the folks at SuperBot admitted that they were inspired by smash? He's right, but I don't understand the hate.[/QUOTE]
"Rip-off" implies a Zynga style heist.

ColdBlooder 08-05-2012 07:48 PM

Well, I got to agree with Mr. Kamiya!

They donīt have to reinvent the wheel but if they did something unique with it, changed the formula here and there, i would be cool with it. But his looks more like Copy and Paste approach of the concept.

This is my opinion, and i stand by it.

DeaconKnowledge 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Desmond;40650544]I think people are miffed that he says stuff without touching the game.[/QUOTE]

GAFfers do it daily. What's the difference?

Boss Doggie 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

Am I the only one who really wished it is a direct rip-off? So far the current mechanics made me feel turned off.

Kinda like how I wished Digimon Rumble Arena 2 would be a Smash rip off but it played off.

trw 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Red Sutter;40650658]Devil May Cry with a woman=totally original[/QUOTE]

Yeah, how dare he rip off himself

Nibel 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=toadster101;40650469]Picture[/QUOTE]

And we are done here

corporate cheerleader 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=ColdBlooder;40650755]Well, I got to agree with Mr. Kamiya!

They donīt have to reinvent the wheel but if they did something unique with it, changed the formula here and there, i would be cool with it. But his looks more like Copy and Paste approach of the concept.

This is my opinion, and i stand by it.[/QUOTE]

Except that Smash Bros players who played the beta don't think it plays similar at all.

Drago 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Ookami-kun;40650718]...and I'm still wondering how Kamiya would do a Star Fox game.[/QUOTE]
Here's hoping it comes after P-100!

[Spoiler];_;[/spoiler]

Loudninja 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=DMPrince;40650696]It's LoudNinja.[/QUOTE]
Its me what?

Oh a tag on a YouTube video is consider damning now?

Hot Coldman 08-05-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=corporate cheerleader;40650731]Then Capcom Defense Force would whine that it's a Power Stone rip-off.[/QUOTE]

1) Capcom doesn't have a defense force
2) Dude that'd be FUCKING [B][I]SWEET[/I][/B]

The_Hitcher89 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=ColdBlooder;40650755]Well, I got to agree with Mr. Kamiya!

They donīt have to reinvent the wheel but if they did something unique with it, changed the formula here and there, i would be cool with it. But his looks more like Copy and Paste approach of the concept.

This is my opinion, and i stand by it.[/QUOTE]

Your opinion seems to be wrong. Yes

Cade 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

I enjoy Smash and am looking forward to PSABR but the amount of ignorance in this thread is shocking. Impressions have stated that the games don't really play like each other at all, but you still have people who only watched the first trailer thinking it's identical to SSB.

chertipros 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Ookami-kun;40650718]...and I'm still wondering how Kamiya would do a Star Fox game.[/QUOTE]

like this [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDe00vAi3hY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDe00vAi3hY[/URL]

MCD 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

No wonder all his recent games bombed.

JABEE 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Green Scar;40650699]Well, he's right! Difference is, I just don't care. I don't really have too much of an issue with them just lifting that formula.

I do agree that them making a 3D game would have been more fitting, but eh. That'd require effort.[/QUOTE]
It isn't even the same formula. The way characters are knocked out is completely different from Smash. There are no ring outs, which is essential to Smash Brothers.

Mr. Fix 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=DeaconKnowledge;40650763]GAFfers do it daily. What's the difference?[/QUOTE]

He's got followers.

Shion 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Kandrick;40650616]Kamiya is awesome.[/QUOTE]
Yes he is.

But he'd be even more awesome if he developed an epic 3D Shinobi game.

Astery 08-05-2012 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Wario64;40650476][IMG]http://i.minus.com/jbjSNEIQQQOXDm.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Nice.

He is just not interested in the game, weather it is a rip off or not depends on how you view it, I would side with Kamiya.

ShockingAlberto 08-05-2012 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=MCD;40650815]No wonder all his recent games bombed.[/QUOTE]

Because his comments about a Sony title traveled back in time?

Currygan 08-05-2012 07:51 PM

shit, that youtube picture...

Sony trolling themselves?

darkside31337 08-05-2012 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=GiantEnemyGoomba;40650670][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IFge8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I had no idea you were privy to PSN sales data.

I can tell you Anarchy Reigns bombed hard and its basically dead on arrival when/if it ever actually makes it to the states.

TWILT 08-05-2012 07:51 PM

Yeah, he's definitely right.

Kusagari 08-05-2012 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=JABEE;40650818]It isn't even the same formula. The way characters are knocked out is completely different from Smash. There are no ring outs, which is essential to Smash Brothers.[/QUOTE]

This is true, but honestly that has just made me think they made an even worse version of Smash Bros. I hate the system conceptually, but maybe it works better in practice.

Nibel 08-05-2012 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=MCD;40650815]No wonder all his recent games bombed.[/QUOTE]

Because CoD rip offs sell so damn good, right?

Sadist 08-05-2012 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=Loudninja;40650794]Oh a tag on a YouTube video is consider damning now?[/QUOTE]
... ... no?

But I think it's pretty funny.


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