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Forever 08-05-2012 08:29 PM

Hideki Kamiya on PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale: "It's just a ripoff."
 
[QUOTE=Wario64;40650598][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ei3bZ.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.minus.com/ibdkbwa9Dcgh6p.png[/IMG]

This got quite the reaction in the other thread. Some people were quick to jump on Kamiya for attacking the game without playing it, but I think it's clear here that he has problems with the game from a [I]conceptual[/I] standpoint, the execution being irrelevant.

Food for thought:

[QUOTE=toadster101;40650469][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/w0eWm.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

:lol

[QUOTE=timetokill;40653107]More Kamiya being awesome:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pT1Oz.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[B]The dude in the above tweets [URL="https://twitter.com/c0t432"]deleted his Twitter account[/URL]. Come at the King, you best not miss!
[/B]
[QUOTE=timetokill;40653181]Kamiya doesn't give a fuck about GAF:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yMC5M.png[/IMG]

...or about the game:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/otbGi.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kusagari;40653584][IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d152/Kusagari/1344194345964.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=timetokill;40653750]Fun is over for today:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IxK7a.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=-GJ-;40662104]A friend asked me to post this:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3LVKU.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zeer0id;40657933][QUOTE=KingItachi;40657694]It's a really slow news day [url]http://n4g.com/news/1053214/hideki-kamiya-playstation-all-stars-is-just-a-rip-off[/url][/QUOTE]"Source: [url]https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya[/url]
Via: [url]http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485438[/url] "

IT'S ALL OUR FAULT[/QUOTE]

Wario64 08-05-2012 08:30 PM

Kamiya to Sony: [b]F U C K O F F [/b]

ViewtifulJC 08-05-2012 08:30 PM

You do it

The_Hitcher89 08-05-2012 08:30 PM

At the end of the day for me, its a conceptual rip-off of a game that is one-of-a-kind, and doesn't have many willing competitors with a rostor to make it worth copying. But they seem to have done more than just copy it. They've taken the simple framework and put their own spin on it from the first floor up judging from the changes and impressions, and its basically ignorance to not even give it a chance because it has the audacity to be a 4-player mascot brawler.

Cade 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

In before him backpedaling and PR statements!

TheBioLover 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

I guess he has a problem with most FPS and fighting games?

JehutyRunner 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

Well, that rules out Bayonetta/Jack for PSASBR.

keit4 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

He is right.

ScraftyDevil 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

[IMG]http://www.thewebsiteofdoom.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/lex-luthor-wrong.jpg[/IMG]

Sammy Samusu 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

He is a mess. :lol

KillerTravis 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

He is not wrong.

ApolloJoh 08-05-2012 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=ViewtifulJC;40650134]You do it[/QUOTE]

I know.

Loudninja 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

Sorry I atleast expect someone to play a game before they try to make such claims.

I dont think that's unreasonable.

Kusagari 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

Kamiya is right.

I mean some of the specials are almost direct ripoffs.

Schobeleth 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

I have immense respect for that man but I don't like that he calls it a rip off. I'll politely agree to disagree with him. Just because something is in the same vein as something else doesn't mean it is a rip off.. It's different enough to make it awesome and fun, while All-Stars is its own unique thing.

DXB-KNIGHT 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

Shots Fired! XD

ZoddGutts 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

Lost interest in the game after the reveal of the character list. Weak lineup.

zroid 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

You just had to :|

Duffyside 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=-Cade;40650150]In before him backpedaling and PR statements![/QUOTE]

This won't happen. The first, that is. Kamiya's word is bond.

Nirolak 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=JehutyRunner;40650157]Well, that rules out Bayonetta/Jack for PSASBR[/QUOTE]

Sega has thrown Platinum off a cliff at this point so I don't think Platinum has much influence on the IPs anymore. :P

That said the games didn't do well so I don't expect us to ever see the IPs again.

Edit:

Though contemplating this, it does make the inclusion of Dante and Raiden from Rising rather amusing.

Beth Cyra 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

Wow.

Honestly thought this would be contained to the Twitter thread. Just one dude giving his opinion on the game and now is going to be used as a flame war.

Adam Prime 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

Games Industry, brah. That's how it works. We take your good idea and turn it into our good idea.

Meccanical 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

It is a rip off.

Anyone who says otherwise is seriously a fanboy.

Granted that doesn't mean it can't be a fun rip off.

AAK 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

Not a fan of PSBAR either. Playstation was immoratlized by all the games which pioneered 3D gaming. Then they go on to make it a 2D game.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN A 3D GAME!!!

spats 08-05-2012 08:32 PM

[IMG]http://i.minus.com/i2Zj4YBqM0LwS.gif[/IMG]

Kamiya's all future PlayStation games CANCELLED.

GSR 08-05-2012 08:33 PM

Hideki Kamiya annoyed on Twitter, tells Sony to use its own brain

Napalm_Frank 08-05-2012 08:33 PM

[spoiler]he is wrong[/spoiler]

JABEE 08-05-2012 08:33 PM

It's a mascot brawler. I've played both and they don't really feel the same at all. Fighting games are very similar, but differentiate themselves in their systems and the way the game is played. All Stars is no rip-off.

darkside31337 08-05-2012 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=JehutyRunner;40650157]Well, that rules out Bayonetta/Jack for PSASBR.[/QUOTE]

They aren't going to put in characters into the game that nobody has ever heard of.

Data West 08-05-2012 08:33 PM

Shouldn't be be working on his game? What's up with Japanese devs on Twitter all day

Cade 08-05-2012 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=Duffyside;40650206]This won't happen. The first, that is. Kamiya's word is bond.[/QUOTE]

Don't know much about the guy, just seems like every time something like this happens it's only a day or two (sometimes only a few hours!) before we get PR statements and claims of mis-wording. :P

Duffyside 08-05-2012 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=Loudninja;40650181]Sorry I atleast expect someone to play a game before they try to make such claims.

I dont think that's unreasonable.[/QUOTE]

I think it's totally unreasonable to say people have to play games to decide they're not interested, or that they are. Yes, he might think differently once he played it, but that doesn't mean he can't have an opinion now, nor that it might not be true in the end.

And I'm really looking forward to PSBR; but I get the harsh criticisms.

corporate cheerleader 08-05-2012 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=TruePrime;40650213]Wow.

Honestly thought this would be contained to the Twitter thread. Just one dude giving his opinion on the game and now is going to be used as a flame war.[/QUOTE]

It's okay, let the Xbox fanboys have some fun.

Drago 08-05-2012 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=Napalm_Frank;40650232][spoiler]he is wrong[/spoiler][/QUOTE]
Yup

It looks like a ripoff at first glance but gameplay is quite different

stilgar 08-05-2012 08:34 PM

So you made it, eh?

Anteater 08-05-2012 08:34 PM

[img]http://i.imgur.com/KuGsj.gif[/img]

Btw he said Streets of Rage is a ripoff of Final Fight too, just for reference regarding his definition of rip-off

Desmond 08-05-2012 08:35 PM

Bayonetta, Vanquish, plus a plethora of Shooters and Fighters are also conceptual rip offs.

GDGF 08-05-2012 08:35 PM

Kamiya is pretty good friends with Sakurai, correct?

(of course you could probably say that about the majority of the japanese games industry)

ponpo 08-05-2012 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=-Cade;40650273]Don't know much about the guy, just seems like every time something like this happens [b]it's only a day or two (sometimes only a few hours!) before we get PR statements and claims of mis-wording.[/b] :P[/QUOTE]

No, you definitely don't know much about Kamiya :(

GuardianE 08-05-2012 08:35 PM

Can't argue with Kamiya.

Zefah 08-05-2012 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=Dragonzord;40650260]Shouldn't be be working on his game? What's up with Japanese devs on Twitter all day[/QUOTE]

I'll never understand comments like this.

Have you ever had a job?

KillerTravis 08-05-2012 08:36 PM

Come on guys, how can you say it's not a concept ripoff? Did you honestly think Superbot came up with the idea on their own? Being a ripoff and being a fun game are two different things. Seems Kamiya just dislikes unoriginal ideas.

SpacePirate Ridley 08-05-2012 08:36 PM

But you know, he is totally right.
Its a rip off, even sony knows that by putting the name super smash bros on their youtube tag videos.

chertipros 08-05-2012 08:36 PM

I wouldn't say it's a ripoff, but it definitely was inspired heavily by super smash brothers. And there is no denying that. And just to play devils advocate, viewtiful joe red hot rumble was a "super smash bros ripoff" too. Was he involved in that?

ffdgh 08-05-2012 08:36 PM

hmm netural..., but it would cool if he gave it a shot in the future.

King of the Potato People 08-05-2012 08:37 PM

It is a ripoff but that doesn't mean it's a bad ripoff.

Dead Prince 08-05-2012 08:37 PM

he should rip off on making a profit.

ScraftyDevil 08-05-2012 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=KillerTravis;40650334]Come on guys, how can you say it's not a concept ripoff? Did you honestly think Superbot came up with the idea on their own? Being a ripoff and being a fun game are two different things. Seems Kamiya just dislikes unoriginal ideas.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://mauiganic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/irony-meter.jpg[/IMG]

Derrick01 08-05-2012 08:37 PM

I don't like him but I can't argue with him too much here. He's more right than wrong.

BlackIronCount 08-05-2012 08:37 PM

hahaha lol

this man is amazing!


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